You sign a joyful, dancing, funky and chic album as you say. Like a snub to gloom, to ambient gravity?
For over a year, we have been going through a difficult period. We so want to meet, dance, kiss. The idea of sharing together and forgetting these moments of loneliness. It’s like a liberation and the promise of a festive summer.
Moreover, there is a song that sums it all up: a girl dancing on the floor of a nightclub (“Breathe again”) …
She is there to tell us that she wants to have fun, to find her former life, to experience drunkenness, to lift her body, to no longer be a spectator, seated, arms crossed. She gets up to experience thrills, one against the other.
Why did you call this album “Heart”, the title of a song about love that hits, domestic violence?
Each title is a piece of that heart. It’s a word that appeals to me. He also appears in all the songs on the album except one (“Goodbye”). It is a question, in filigree, domestic violence, misguided love. This is to better denounce toxic relationships. I say: “Love has never killed anyone / the blows that love forgives are love at first sight”. Like my song “Grenade” (“Under my breast, the pomegranate”) about sexual assault.
Another song, “The Rest”, where it is a question of rupture and the memory of the other evoked in a realistic style: “I can not forget your ass / The emotional memory of your naked body”. A way to display your freedom of expression, a feminine eroticism?
I wanted to allow myself this freedom of tone, of language. It seemed important to me to be frank, sincere and to use the word “ass” which hits more here because it comes out of a woman’s mouth. This is not a bad word. It is in the dictionary and used in Scrabble!
How do you write? The lyrics first and the music then, or both at the same time?
I don’t really have a protocol. I go according to inspiration. Sometimes I let myself be surprised at the turn of a conversation by the sound of a word and I tell myself that it could make a good song. Sometimes it’s a melody that runs through my head and that I quickly record on my smartphone.
What inspires you?
Daily life, mundane things in fact. And human relations in their simplicity.
We often write what looks like us. What do you want to share through your songs?
Joy, revolt, love: three words that inspire me the most.
What annoys or revolts you today?
Lots of things: gender inequalities and inequalities in general, social injustices and lies. Especially the lies in the music. I like songs that are true.
Why ? Are there any songs that are wrong or that sound wrong?
Yes. That’s why I write my songs myself because I can’t see myself performing other people’s lyrics. I couldn’t do it because I need to sing about my own feelings, to sign my confidences.
Who are the artists who influenced you?
I love Françoise Hardy (whose intonations can be found in “Au revoir”, editor’s note). Michel Berger, the Anglo-Saxon rock. It’s all a mixture of genres. I also love disco and recently saw “Saturday Night Fever” with John Travolta. I could dress like this, disco. It’s very happy, very carefree, the opposite of our time.
Among your eleven texts, there is a very personal, very touching one: “J’sais pas plaire”. Does he look like you?
We are all waiting for Prince Charming or the Princess, someone who can read us. Who will know how to love our vulnerability and the fact that we are not flawless. When I sing “I don’t know how to please”, that means I’m already starting to like myself so that I can be attractive and please others. Not easy !
Hard to escape formatting?
It’s complicated for our generation because we are solicited from all sides, all the time, by advertising and social networks with beauty standards inaccessible on Instagram. This is not obvious.
You also sing “Sad and slow”, a nice piano / voice duo with Julien Doré who invited you to sing “L’île auemain” on his latest album. There is an immediate bond between you. How do you explain it?
Beyond the fact that we know each other well, there is something obvious about the way we join our voices. It is particularly striking in this ballad. Julien, I love him both professionally and friendly. He’s a kind of imaginary big brother and a very good melodist.
You close “Heart” with “Goodbye”, a song in which you say: “When I have sung everything, when at last I will be silent”. At 28, it’s a bit early to leave the profession, isn’t it?
Yeah ! Promise, it’s for fake. I wrote it during the first lockdown because I saw everything in black and told myself that I will never sing on stage again. Today I am much more optimistic because there is the vaccine and people are starting to come out again. You have to be optimistic, but it’s true that at one point, I felt a little overwhelmed by everything that was happening to us.
You will be going on tour in the fall. Are you going to sing in small or large groups?
With a group of four musicians, but for the Zénith tour in March 2022, I would like to have choirs and a string orchestra. I really want this to be a big party.
Your video clip on “The rest” is very inspired by the style and poetry of Jacques Demy, the director of “Umbrellas of Cherbourg” and “Demoiselles de Rochefort”. Did he rock your childhood?
Ah yes, completely! At the age of eight or nine, our schoolteacher took us to the cinema to see “Les Parapluies de Cherbourg” and it changed my life. Since that day, I wanted to make music and Jacques Demy guided my aesthetic. I like his cinema. It’s beautiful, charming, full of poetry. I keep watching his films to the point of forgetting the others. But I’m going to catch up and go see “Miss” which I have been told a lot about. The story of a boy who is running for Miss France.
For the production of “Heart”, you worked with Sage, Breakbot and Pierrick Devin. The disco touch, are they?
Yes, neo disco. I had already worked with them on my first album, “Sainte-Victoire”. They are brilliant producers and musicians. I like their personal way of making the music sound, the rhythm. We are no longer in the 70s but this style still lives on. And what if our generation did not experience Saturday Night Fever but Covid-19 fever (laughs) …
“Heart”, available June 11 (Romance Musique / Universal). In concert at La Carène in Brest on October 27 (sold out) and at Liberté in Rennes, March 17, 2022.
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